Founder-CEO & Chief Analyst, Real Estate Foresight

Robert Ciemniak

Founder-CEO & Chief Analyst

Real Estate Foresight

Since 2012, REF has been helping investors with market research, project due diligence, and strategy development. This has ranged from detailed assessments and estimates on distressed developers' project portfolios to market due diligence on specific projects to macro-level questions linked to demand for commodities. The unique combination of the housing markets and developer data from data partner China Index Academy in Beijing, primary research, and technology-powered alternative data collection from public sources result in a valuable content set used in REF analytics and reports.

Predictive Analytics for China Property

Macroeconomics

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<li>We look at the key annual macro-property data for 2011-2023 and review the past 'group forecasts' for new home sales in China in 2023 and 2022</li>
<li>The views in 2023 proved more in line with the actual than in 2022 but NBS revisions to 2022 new home sales data (Mar-Dec) add some complications</li>
<li>You can <a href="https://ref.kubrosearch.com/drawkits/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">join this year's 'draw the line'</a> for new home sales, part of Real Estate Foresight's 12th Annual China Property Outlook</li>
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We look at the key annual macro-property data for 2011-2023 and review the past 'group forecasts' for new home sales in China in 2023 and 2022
The views in 2023 proved more in line with the actual than in 2022 but NBS revisions to 2022 new home sales data (Mar-Dec) add some complications
You can join this year's 'draw the line' for new home sales, part of Real Estate Foresight's 12th Annual China Property Outlook


China Property: In Hindsight On 2023 and 2022 Forecasts | "Draw The Line" 2024

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<li>Today's NBS data for house price growth (new homes and the secondary market) for 70 major cities in December 2023 indicates further declines </li>
<li>Aggregate figures and averages may not reflect the 'on-the-ground' feel, but the relative performance of cities should give a good indication of city-level dynamics</li>
<li>Chengdu, Shanghai, Xi'an, and Sanya finished with the relatively strongest growth rates year-on-year for the new home price growth</li>
</ul>


Today's NBS data for house price growth (new homes and the secondary market) for 70 major cities in December 2023 indicates further declines 
Aggregate figures and averages may not reflect the 'on-the-ground' feel, but the relative performance of cities should give a good indication of city-level dynamics
Chengdu, Shanghai, Xi'an, and Sanya finished with the relatively strongest growth rates year-on-year for the new home price growth


China Official House Price Growth Rates Turn More Negative In December 2023

Thematic (Sector/Industry)

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<li>The latest China housing metrics remain weak, 'less negative' by some 12M measures, in line with our forecast from December 2022 data, but watch out for some major data twists</li>
<li>The expanding easing of policies is still far from a major stimulus, and the ‘whitelist’ to support certain developers indicates a selective approach by the policymakers, focused on "risk prevention"</li>
<li>The market for new home sales (mostly pre-sales) diverges from the secondary market, and the policy steers toward affordable housing, public facilities, urban village renovation</li>
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The latest China housing metrics remain weak, 'less negative' by some 12M measures, in line with our forecast from December 2022 data, but watch out for some major data twists
The expanding easing of policies is still far from a major stimulus, and the ‘whitelist’ to support certain developers indicates a selective approach by the policymakers, focused on "risk prevention"
The market for new home sales (mostly pre-sales) diverges from the secondary market, and the policy steers toward affordable housing, public facilities, urban village renovation


China Property - The Latest Signals In The Housing Markets, Data Caveats | December 2023

Pan-Asia Catalysts/Events, Quiddity Advisors

Travis Lundy

Pan-Asia Catalysts/Events

Quiddity Advisors

Event-Driven

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<li>SOUTHBOUND flows showing reversion tendencies continues for a second or third week after weeks of momentum. </li>
<li>SOUTHBOUND saw HK$11.2bn of INFLOWS on the week, a chunk of which was net buys on HK-listed ETFs, but Hs underperformed their A counterparts in the H/A pairs once again. </li>
<li>High-Div SOEs again saw action. This time with both <a href="https://www.smartkarma.com/entities/cnooc-ltd" target="_blank" data-smartkarma-citation="entities:175:1" rel="noopener">CNOOC Ltd (883 HK)</a><em>and</em><a href="https://www.smartkarma.com/entities/china-mobile-ltd" target="_blank" data-smartkarma-citation="entities:27:1" rel="noopener">China Mobile (941 HK)</a> seeing strong net buying as a percentage of volume. Tech was sold.  </li>
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SOUTHBOUND flows showing reversion tendencies continues for a second or third week after weeks of momentum. 
SOUTHBOUND saw HK$11.2bn of INFLOWS on the week, a chunk of which was net buys on HK-listed ETFs, but Hs underperformed their A counterparts in the H/A pairs once again. 
High-Div SOEs again saw action. This time with both CNOOC Ltd (883 HK)andChina Mobile (941 HK) seeing strong net buying as a percentage of volume. Tech was sold.  


HK Connect SOUTHBOUND Flows (To 8Dec23); CNOOC & China Mobile Both Now To The Buy Side, Tencent Not

<ul>
<li>SOUTHBOUND flows the last several weeks clearly indicated a momentum move. The top net sells were all down. The top buys were all up. This week saw reversion.</li>
<li>SOUTHBOUND saw net buys of HK$3.5bn this week, breaking a nascent sell streak. Meituan dip-buying Wednesday to Friday was worth the entire net buy.</li>
<li>High-Div SOEs remain mixed. CNOOC (883) saw decent net buying, and China Mobile saw decent net selling. Again.</li>
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SOUTHBOUND flows the last several weeks clearly indicated a momentum move. The top net sells were all down. The top buys were all up. This week saw reversion.
SOUTHBOUND saw net buys of HK$3.5bn this week, breaking a nascent sell streak. Meituan dip-buying Wednesday to Friday was worth the entire net buy.
High-Div SOEs remain mixed. CNOOC (883) saw decent net buying, and China Mobile saw decent net selling. Again.


HK Connect SOUTHBOUND Flows (To 1 Dec 23); Meituan Dip-Buyings Leads Inflows; CNOOC Vs 941 on SOEs

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China Property: In Hindsight On 2023 and 2022 Forecasts | "Draw The Line" 2024

Before getting into the forecasts for 2024, reviewing how the past forecasts fared vs the actuals can be quite illuminating, here is the case for...

Robert Ciemniak

China Official House Price Growth Rates Turn More Negative In December 2023

China House Prices: Chengdu, Shanghai, Xi'an, and Sanya finished with the relatively strongest growth rates year-on-year for the new home price...

Robert Ciemniak

China Property - The Latest Signals In The Housing Markets, Data Caveats | December 2023

What's the latest with China's housing markets and what data caveats to watch for? In this note, we draw on the range of data metrics and our...

Robert Ciemniak

HK Connect SOUTHBOUND Flows (To 8Dec23); CNOOC & China Mobile Both Now To The Buy Side, Tencent Not

SOUTHBOUND flows were a strong HK$11.2bn net inflow, with both ETFs and high-div SOEs seeing big net inflows. Despite that, Hs underperformed their...

Travis Lundy

HK Connect SOUTHBOUND Flows (To 1 Dec 23); Meituan Dip-Buyings Leads Inflows; CNOOC Vs 941 on SOEs

Quiddity's SOUTHBOUND Connect Monitor: Large net buys on Meituan after the dip make up all of the last week's net buys. Other names see smaller...

Travis Lundy

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